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15 December 2006
My name is Jeremy Woodcock, 64 years. I am a Chartered
Surveyor and I have spent most of my working life running my
own firm in
Scarborough
on the
Yorkshire
Coast
.
My main sporting interest has been sailing and over the
years I have sailed and raced a Merlin Rocket, Osprey, Int.
Dragon, Squib, Sonata, Contessa 26, Hustler 30 and latterly
an Ian Pocock designed Starlight 30 ‘Trystar’. I have
sailed many miles with Trystar, at least 10 times to
Holland
and the Ijesslemere, The south Coast when we competed in the
Triangle race, a two handed race from Torquay to Crosshaven
Cork the back South round the Scillies to Treguier.
N Brittany
and finally back to Torquay. Since then we have cruised from
a base on the Tamar and another year from Kip Marina before
returning to
Scarborough
via the
Caledonian Canal
and the North Sea South from
Inverness
.
Some 12 years ago I joined with my partner Maureen and she
started taking an interest in Sailing which culminated in
our taking Trystar to
Holland
and back as a duo. However it was obvious that she enjoyed
it most on the canals in
Holland
and, to be honest, I reached the stage where I did as well.
So
the next year, for my birthday present, Maureen chartered a
narrowboat on the
Longollen
Canal
for a long weekend. Although March and the time being not
long enough for us to get as far as the aqueducts we enjoyed
the trip and the laid back atmosphere. This was followed by
a week on the
Stafford
shire and
Worcester
canal. It rained every day, our two dogs were soaked and in
the end the gearbox seized so that our hire company had to
send out a tug to drag us back to base. It must have been
fun as we decided to sell ‘Trystar’ to a mate and to buy
a narrowboat.
The
search for a boat was frustrating. Long journeys and
disappointment when the boat in reality did not match the
description. We found a good site was Harrell’s in
Forthwith. But by the time we had got there the good 2nd
hand buys had been sold. Then by chance we called at Blue
Water, Thorne where they were just offloading a new
Liverpool
38 that they ere about to sell on spec. We had seen these at
Harrell’s and to avoid further frustration told them to
put a ‘sold’ notice on the boat before they put it in
the water. “Little Mo’ as we called her did us well for
18 months. We cruised up the Aire and Calder, then the
Calder and Hebble to
Sowerby
Bridge
where we fell in love with the hills and in Shire Cruisers
and Nigel Stevens, found a friendly boatyard to look after
our needs.
However
a 38ft narrowboat, even though Nigel Stevens referred to her
as a ‘Tardis’, is small and we were starting to use her
three days a week all year round. To avoid the earlier
frustration we looked at building New. First Heron
Bo
ats at Mirfield and later
Liverpool
boats because of the latter’s apparent value for money and
the willingness of the joiners to adopt individual ideas
internally (That was before
Liverpool
underwent their recent expansion). However one day, when we
were making our way towards the
Trent
we stopped again at Blue Water. Kevin showed us picture of a
55ft Cruiser by Pindar that he had just taken on that day.
These so appealed to Maureen that we got in Kevin’s car to
go back to
Stanley
ferry to view. The result was a deal whereby Blue Water took
in ‘Little Mo’, made me a cash advance which together
with a cheque on a new personal loan enabled us to buy
‘Rosedale Lady’.
She
is a lovely boat but we soon found that although the Central
Heating worked when the vendor turned it on, it soon
developed air locks and, worse still, overheated when the
engine was run. So we went back to
Sowerby
Bridge
where Nigel took one look and said that of course it
wouldn’t work. So Shire Cruisers were commissioned to re
plumb the central heating and to correct some errors with
the electrical wiring. We also got them to fit a 1500w
‘pro sine’ inverter.
The
result was a fine narrowboat and our plan was that we would
continue to retirement and then spend 9 moths each year
cruising the English Canals. (I should say that when I met
Maureen I owned a flat in
Spain
. But we soon rejected the idea of retirement there. It
would just get too boring and one would soon get fed up with
the intense sun.)
We
moved back to Blue Water to be within easy reach of
Scarborough
and continued to use the boat as much as we could. However
during the winter of 2003/4 Maureen was becoming increasing
disgruntled over the dogs, we now have three, bringing water
on board each time it rained. ‘Rosedale Lady’ had the
normal narrowboat layout in that the entry was via the
bedroom. We also realised that with the bedroom in the stern
not only did everyone walk pat in their wet clothes but it
was not too easy to take oneself off for a kip without being
disturbed.
Then
one day a Dutch Style narrowboat came into the marina. Hey!
A wheelhouse and a forward bedroom ! The answer to our
problem. The magazines were searched and eventually we found
a David Tomas designed boat for sale. She was not cheap but
looked nice. However I found that damp had been getting in
for several years rotting some woodwork. I worried about
unseen damage so we went no further.
Now
we looked around for someone to build us a new narrow Dutch
barge. Many said they would but I always worried that they
would not get the hull to look right. In most cases the
cabin was too boxy. No one seemed to be able to get the
sheer right. Not to be straight but also not to be like a
Banana. We narrowed our search to Eastwoods at Misterton
Notts and Ricochet
Bo
ats at Shadwell Marina also in Nottinghamshire but further
up the
Trent
. We also put ‘Rosedale Lady’ up for sale and she sold
to the first couple that looked. We got all our money back
but did we ask enough! Now we were committed. The first time
Id been boatless for 57 years!
We
now had to concentrate our thoughts on the new build and our
requirements in view of our retirement plans. It soon became
obvious to us that if we were to spend nine months a year
narrow boating, our flat in Scarborough would be standing
empty but still with costs such as Maintenance, Council tax
and Insurance. So, should we sell and live aboard 12 months
a year.? We have a number of friends who do. More
deliberation. We came to the conclusion that 9 months on a
narrowboat was ok if we had another home. But if we did not
have another home it was too small.
This
would have been how we should have left it. But several
years ago we had looked closely at Sagar’s minilux Barges
being built at Brighouse. Internally they were beautiful.
Maureen was convinced that she could live full time on a
Sagar (Even the Queen has been on Sagar’s own boat
“Anna’). But a phone call established that the price had
risen considerably and the waiting list was into 2006 !
Once
again we were talking to the boat builders and once again we
found that most of the British new builds were rather box
like. We considered buying an older Dutch Hull but
discounted these on size as well as cost. Also I thought
that we would spend a fortune traveling round
Europe
looking at different barges. We saw a nice hull at New
Holland Marine but the interior was well advanced and not to
our liking. A large saloon at the expense of a cross double
bed against the forward bulkhead.
 One
day after seeing the Euroship advert we were talking to
Terry Hibbard of
Haworth
,
Doncaster
, who imports Euroship kits from
Holland
. During the discussion he said that he had a completed 15
luxmotor hull and that it was at R & D Fabrications New
Ollerton. So into the car and there it was (photo right). To my yachtie eyes the hull lines
were great. It was a little short in length but otherwise it
has the sheer, bow and stern of the barges that we had seen
so many of in
Holland
. It also suffers from a draft of 1m but that will add to
stability in estuary cruising. Her shapely lines, and the
very substantial internal ribs also reduce the accommodation
space and will increase fit out costs. We met Brian of R
& D, he was keen to fit the boat out and we toured his
works looking at a lot of his work in progress. Back to
Terry Hibbard and to an agreement on a price. He also sent
me very detailed plans and photographs of completed boats in
Holland
. (2nd pic)
We
now came to our first pitfall. When the invoice arrived we
found that Terry Hibbard had added VAT. No it’s not a
qualifying ship. A quick consultation with Adrian Stott, the
legal eagle of the DBA produced
a wealth of information and the advice that we could not
deal with the purchase and fit out of the hull as separate
items. We must only make one purchase of a completed boat
and that boat must be for residential use, not for any
pleasure or recreational use. Whilst this was going on Brian
of R & D had introduced me to Ken Haines who runs a
company ‘Little Brown Mouse’ from various locations near
Grantham. His main business is the restoring of antiques but
had recently started making loose furniture for narrowboat
and other items such as turned wood porthole liners. (Did
you see his stand at the Crick Motor Show) He used to own
his own narrow boat and has recently fitted out several for
R & D. he agreed to fit out or barge, now called ‘Ypie’.
We drew up a spec and a BMF contract. He confirmed with his
local VAT office that he could supply me the finished barge
at zero rate VAT. I then funded him to purchase the hull
from Terry Hibbard.
 That
has now been done and the hull is in Ken Haines Yard at
Normanton near Grantham. Normanton is a small agricultural
village on the
Grantham Lincoln Road
. I wonder how many car drivers will make a double take when
they drive by, far from the sea or any river ‘Is that a
boat?’
Our
accommodation plan is straightforward. Our requirement was
for two 2-berth cabins each with a shower and toilet, a cosy
saloon and a well-equipped Galley. The wheelhouse, which is
to be fold down is to double as a Conservatory with space
for summer Dining. Ken has now not only prepared detailed
accommodation plans showing how these requirements can be
fitted into a 15 metre hull but also a 1/6th scale model.
Just like a Dolls House for Maureen. This gives a 3D view of
the accommodation as opposed to a flat paper plan. Ken also
says that building the model has also helped him plan his
work within the curvature of the hull
So
the project is under way. With Ian’s help, over the next
weeks I intend to add further reports about our progress,
the problems we encounter and the steps taken to solve them.
We
have a suggest completion date of end of August but i doubt
it. But I would hope for year end. Then we hope that the guy
at Blue Water Thorne will keep his word and find as a bank
side mooring.
We intend
to cruise the north, the Thames, I have a daughter in London
and then Holland France etc
Progress
Report 24th
June 2004.
 The
barge is now chocked up outside Ken Haines works at Normanton.
Maureen and I were down last Friday and agreed just what
welding and cutting was needed to the hull. For instance there
are no scuppers and the bulwarks are some 8in high. The
drainage is by way of two bath sized drains ok for rain but
not capable of coping with any seawater that we might take on
board in adverse conditions. We could soon be carrying an
extra three tons! We also need lacing eyes for bow and stern
fenders and Maureen wants a socket for a Rotary drier. The
stern rails do not go forward past the wheelhouse and I am
concerned over exiting the Wheelhouse when Ypie is rolling in
a seaway. So we are going to drill the bulwarks either side of
the wheelhouse and fit sockets below so that removable
stanchions and life lines can be fitted when we are making
estuary or cross channel trips.
Ken
is calculating the ballast requirements together with the
probable weights of water storage, fresh, grey and foul, and
fuel storage. Two fuel tanks are already built in but I want a
third to supply the diesel CH boiler.
We
have also agreed that the Insulation is to be Thinsulate
Acoustic Insulation. This is a fabric developed for space
craft and now widely used in out door clothing and
particularly diving suits. It is also used for sports car soft
tops. There is a lot of information on its application to
marine insulation on the 3M web site. Look for Marine product
solutions. The site also lists the two
UK
suppliers. The Thinsulate is applied to
the hull sides and a second layer is applied to the back of
the plywood panels that will line the hull. (Thinsulate is a
3M reg name). We will also be using Thinsulate Acoustic
Insulation in the engine room and possible as a soft top for
the wheelhouse.
 Another
interesting point with regard to our hull lining is that the
plywood panels will be fitted in such a ways as they will
‘float’ to allow for the difference in the expansion of
the steel hull to the timber lining. For further info on this
exciting concept you should contact Ken Haines at Little Brown
Mouse 01400 251
144.
The
hull is still one vast empty space and that is taxing
Maureen’s patience. It seems ages since we agreed to
purchase. However I can see that things are coming together
and there should be some changes by the time of our next visit
Saturday
3rd July 2004.
We
went down to Normanton to view progress and to meet two
friends from the past, Anne and Johnathan Barker. Unknown to
us they had been planning to buy or build a Dutch barge and
had seen this progress story on Ian’s web site and
recognized from the background history that it was Maureen and
I.
Ken
Haines has now virtually completed the detailed joinery plans.
He has built access to Ypie, it looks like a gallows for
awkward clients. Internally timber lathes are being bolted to
the frames and the first machine has appeared. Progress. The
pig iron ballast and the Thinsulate insulation should be in by
next weekend. Then the floor and lining.
The
engine room is huge and present plans are for all the tankage
to go there.
 We
have also had detailed discussions over the electrical
requirements both for leisure and barge operation as this
needs to be agreed now so that wiring layout can be finalised.
We are planning on as much 240 volt equipment as possible.
Ken
is discussing ventilation with his BSS inspector. We would
like a ducted air system so that we can fit air conditioning
if we want at a later stage.
16th
August 2004
4
weeks on since our last report. Work is progressing but, as we
expected, slowly and with completion now likely to be November
!
 Most
of the Thinsulate lining is in (see photo right), well
up to gunwale height plus the ceilings. Most of the electrical wiring
is in as its first stage plumbing.
The
joiners are busy on the forward cabin, the main bedroom. We
have decided that we can have a 5ft bed and still leave room
although the floor by the side of the bed will slope because
of the external lines of the hull. The amount of cupboard
space that has been planned is extensive. There will be a
separate shower, drying room and a wc with washbasin both
accessible from Main cabin or Fore cabin.
 After
some difference of opinion, happily friendly, Maureen and Ken
have agreed the layout for the galley area. Ken had to be
convinced that we wanted worktop space either side of the hob.
Maureen had to be convinced that the place for the washing
machine is the engine room. (After all it is not as if she
will wash everyday. Prob weekly at first).
The
galley is to be built in Cherry. The main cabin will be marine
plywood painted ivory with cherry frames.
There
will be a mixture of fitted and loose seating and Tracey
Abbot, the upholsterer,(Again very rural. His workshop is a
farmyard south of Grantham). was visiting to suggest fabrics
and colours. One topic of discussion is whether the outside
colour scheme should be reflected in the internal colours
Now
plans are being drawn for the layout of the main cross
bulkhead which will face visitors as they come down the
companion way from the wheelhouse. So it is a very important
feature. It has to incorporate a fireplace for a multifuel
stove as well as storage for booze, glasses, TV, DVD and
books.
The
price of pig iron has soared so the ballast is now to be 2nd
hand railway lines. That should be in place this week.
There
has been lost of head scratching over engines. Most of
Ypie’s life will be on canals. But there will be a
requirement to navigate the Trent, Humber and other rivers and
to cross the Southern North Sea. So was it to be 75 or 90 hp
or more. The ships designers recommend 110 hp. In the end we
decided that although we would not often want the extra power
we should be able to have it when wanted. We also thought that
the re sale value would be reduced if a smaller engine was
fitted. So we have ended up ordering a Perkins Sabre 130hp. It
is a naturally aspirated engine with a good reputation for
reliability and with spares readily available . It comes
fitted with a trolling valve for canal work with safety gear
to prevent one accidentally knocking off the trolling valve
and damaging the clutch. It also came with a good financial
package but the downside of a long delivery. (My advice to
others is to do your engine research early although we came up
with two manufacturers who were about to bring out new models.
There were also two with stands at the Crick show who said
they would come up with packages and who have not yet made
contact!)
The
next matter to take our attention is the design of the
wheelhouse. It will be fold down and fitted with a Thinsulate
roof. That can easily be rolled back or forwards to expose the
forward or rear areas of the wheel house or removed
completely. The forward and aft windscreens will fold down.
The side windows will be removable even with the roof in place
for ultra hot weather. One question not resolved is whether
the forward windscreen should be vertical as Euroships design
or be raked forward. More modern and better in rain but are we
building a replica. The jury is still out.
3rd
September 2004
We
have made two visits to the barge recently but each time I
forgot to take my camera.
The
ballast has now been installed. In the end ken used 2nd
hand ‘A’ plates from the railways. These are the plates
that go between the running rail and the sleeper. Two plats
just fitted neatly between each frame reducing the need for
woodwork to hold the ballast in place.
We
are very pleased with the Thinsulate and decided to added it
to the underside of the marine ply flooring to give extra
insulation. (Neither of our narrowboats had sub floor
insulation and we noticed this getting out of bed with bare
feet in winter)
The
joiners are building the bed in the forecabin. It is 5ft wide
and leaves little space between it and the cupboards lining
the sides. However after discussion we decided that we would
rather have a 5ft bed than increase the floor between the bed
and cupboards by 3ins.
The
bulkheads for the shower room and the wc, either side of the
passage to the forecabin, are complete. We have decided that
both will have bonded ‘wet floors’ Now we are looking at
laminates to line the walls. I would prefer tiles but have
been convinced that laminates are more durable and lessen the
risk of water penetration to the sub floor.
In
the main cabin the framework for the kitchen units and the
fitted sofa have been made. The latter is three sides of an
octagon. This should make it more sociable than an
‘L’shaped settee. However it leaves us with an awkward
triangular shape behind. What shall we do with it. Booze
cabinet.
We
have purchased a Morse ‘O’ range 4kw multifuel stove. The
smallest we could find with a nice style. We can now plan the
main bulkhead which will include the stove.
Work
is starting next week on the wheelhouse. This, in my view is
one of the most important areas as it will be used most. We
are having an upright windscreen as in our view this is more
trad than a forward rake. The dashboard will be set at an
angle again because of looks. The equipment will be minimal.
Danforth Compass, Garmin 128 GPS. Radio with dsc and a depth
meter. Demisting will come fom the engine manifold. The wheel,
plain Vetus maghogany, will be mounted centrally and there
will be a small area for charts on the port side.
Originally
we were planning on an Iroko, poor mans teak, wheelhouse. We
have been told that working on Iroko is now a cancer risk. We
cannot afford teak so have reverted to Mahogany.
Last
week Kenny Haines went over to
Rotterdam
to see Cornelius. Amongst other matters he
discussed the paintwork. He was told that the primer was a bog
standard industrial primer. Great. We can now paint with
industrial paints rather than expensive two pot finishes. This
makes it much easier to touch up after minor contact damage.
However the hull has been primed and standing outside for some
8 months and quite a lot of shot blasting will be required.
Maureen
has just to decide on colour.
Oxford
blue and cream is fav at present.
22nd
October 2004
It
has been sometime since I have written an update even though
we have been making weekly visits to Little Brown Mouse at
Normanton, Grantham. This is because, on the surface, progress
appears to be desperately slow. Really it is not as all the
Cherry wood furniture has been made and is in the finishing
shop for oiling and waxing.
Internally
the fore cabin has been painted out.
 Externally
the big step forward has been the construction of the
collapsible wheelhouse. This is in mahogany and the joiners
have added plenty of detail. All that remains to be done is
the fabrication and fitting of the soft-top roof. We have the
prices for a breathable canvas top but are still considering
making an insulated roof using Thinsulate. Evidently 3M supply
a suitable material to BMW for their soft-top cars.
The
depression over the slow movement has not been helped by
several problems that have arisen due to lack of homework or
research before we purchased the hull.
 When
we looked at the hull it was obvious that the tube for a bow
thrusters had been fitted. ‘That’s good as it would be
difficult to retro fit’ Now we find that when Vetus advise
on the HP of the thrusters needed for a boat of this size the
propeller is small compared to the diameter of the tube. This
will result in excessive cavitation and loss of power. It is
not possible to fit a larger prop. It would seem that
Cornelius is of the opinion that a much more powerful bow
thrusters is needed. This not only increases the cost but also
greatly increases the current demand. We would have to have a
four-110amphbattery bank in the bow locker to provide power
for two minutes use. So R & D are now looking at ways of
cutting out the existing tube and re fitting a smaller
diameter tube to suit the thrusters that Vetus recommend as
the cost, we hope, will be less than the cost of the over
large thrusters.
Similarly
the cabin windows. Yes they were cut to an attractive Dutch
Style. However when it came to sourcing frames from the UK
manufacturers it was found that they were not a stock size..
So we have had to have moulds made to cast the frames for the
pretty stern cabin windows whilst the main cabin windows have
been made up from sheet brass. Possibly a blessing in disguise
as otherwise we would have been fitting anodised alloy frames.
The port holes were ok as we cut those ourselves to suit R
& D stock cast brass frames
Also
the skylights. Ken was making nice cherry wood liners until it
was realised that they had the secondary function of acting as
emergency escapes and I would never get my beer gut through.
There
are many other examples of where the hull has been built to
the design that pleases the eye rather than with a view to
economic completion. So far we have found only one straight
line, the top edge of the forward wheelhouse bulkhead. The top
of the after bulkhead is ever so slightly concave !
I
am a retired Chartered Surveyor and have been quite amazed at
the fees that Marine Surveyors require for making the
calculations needed to enable the builder to certify that the
boat is being built to RCD category C. I was in the wrong job.
I cannot see that the potential liability working on a boat is
greater than my liability, and the continuing liability of my
colleagues, in carrying out detailed surveys of residential
properties.
Its
no consolation to Maureen and I, still in a Caravan, that
these problems will not arise on the later Euroship hulls.
The
good news is that all the cabin brass wear has been delivered
as has the toilet wear and pipe work from Lee Sanitation and
the oil fired central heating boiler from Terry Hibbard at
Harworth Heating. A lot of gear has been purchased from Vetus
besides the bow thruster, including the hydraulic steering,
stern gear, pumps, fans, instrumentation and the anchor winch.
They have sent a dispatch note. Perkins have also told Kenny
that the engine has been running on the test bed and has been
passed. Incidentally we have decided against a variable pitch
propeller.
January
2005
 Well
work is still progressing albeit slowly
We
will be spending Christmas in a Caravan. Something we had
never thought about. When we get a frosty morning the frost on
the roof of the awning melts from the inside producing a
gentle rain.
In
an earlier report I mentioned how Cornelius in producing the
kits had designed the kit for the 23m lux motor and to produce
the smaller versions had merely omitted the mid sections using
similar bow and sterns.
 I
am attaching two photos showing how we have had to sleave the
bow thrusters and stern tubes.
Internally
all is progressing and last time Maureen and I were down it
was difficult to take photos because of bodies.
The
hardwood floor to the saloon is being laid this week and the
seating frame can be re set ready for the upholster after
Christmas.
The
engine has been craned in and the engineers are connecting up.
However what was a roomy engine room is now full of tankage,
calorifier, oil c.h. boiler and a solid looking very Germanic
engine.
We
are going down again tomorrow to agree the wheelhouse
dashboard layout.
16th March 2005
I have not posted any comment recently mainly because progress
has still been slowish and we have had major trauma over the
VAT.
My enquiries made before we started
indicated that as long as we purchase a complete barge from one supplier, that Maureen and I were going to liveaboard full
time and had sold our bricks and mortar home and that the size
was such that the barge met the 15 ton criteria we could ask
the boat fitter to supply at zero rate.
 Kenny
Haines also made enquiries from his VAT office and was given
similar advice with a suggestion that to protect himself he
should ask Maureen and I to give him an affidavit to say that
we were using the boat residentially.
When articles started appearing on the net
and in the press he continued to talk to his vat office and
received advice that my barge, where I was a liveaboard could
be zero but the second, for Johnny Barker which was not a
livaboard could not. Then they said he should write to
Southend to ask the question. He got a reply with the business
note dated 31st December 2004 which specifically
says that replica D B’s must be rated at 17.5%.
Fortunately we can find the money to go on
but it has to come from Savings that were invested to boost
our state pension. The reduced income will make life hard.
Adrian Stott of the DBA is of the opinion
that HMCE have got it wrong and the argument is ongoing. He is
gathering evidence to put up a case. However it looks as if,
in the meantime, we will have to pay up and then appeal.
One result of the VAT is that we got so
depressed after reading their letter to Kenny Haines that when
we got back to Scarborough we took a furnished flat and moved
out that night from the caravan we have been living in since
May 2004.
 As
far as Ypie goes there has now been a lot of progress. The
accommodation is now virtually complete save for snagging.
Last Friday John was building the wheelhouse seats and three
accommodation cabins are complete but for the polishing of the
woodwork.
Externally the only piece of equipment that
has been fitted is the anchor winch.
 The
mast has been erected but will need to be replaced. It was
made by a sub contractor who turned it out of a lamination of
22 pieces of ash. However either he has not allowed for the
weather or used the wrong glues but the laminations are coming
apart. It had looked beautiful in the workshop but I had
thought it an extravagance as it had cost over £1,000.00 !
Work has also started on painting the hull.
Just a coat on the lower half has really enhanced the
appearance and puts great emphasis on the fine lines.
So, hopefully six more weeks will see us on
the Trent.
Incidentally I have heard that Kees
Cornelissen has taken exception to my comments over the sizes
of the cabin windows, the bow thrust tube, tabernacle etc. Im
glad to know that he reads these commentsand I cannot go back
on them. The problems with these matters has caused extra work
and cost. However I am still delighted with the overall design
of the hull. Its lines appeal to my yachtie background and,
although very obviously a replica, it has so many of the
characteristics of the luxmotor design. The counter might be a
huge waste of space but I would have it no other way. I still
recommend anyone considering a new build, VAT not
withstanding, to visit the euroships web site.
15th December 2006....
Some photos.....
Please
excuse the bad English. Please also note that any views
expressed are my own. Please do not rely on any statements
that appear to be statements of fact. Please check for your
self.
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